{"id":1170,"date":"2012-11-17T16:39:33","date_gmt":"2012-11-17T21:39:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/scottaaronson.blog\/?p=1170"},"modified":"2019-01-28T14:33:41","modified_gmt":"2019-01-28T20:33:41","slug":"proving-without-explaining-and-verifying-without-understanding","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scottaaronson.blog\/?p=1170","title":{"rendered":"Proving Without Explaining, and Verifying Without Understanding"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last Friday, I was at a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.upenn.edu\/live\/events\/45396-nature-of-proof-a-symposium\">&#8220;Symposium on the Nature of Proof&#8221;<\/a> at UPenn, to give a popular talk about theoretical computer scientists&#8217; expansions of the notion of mathematical proof (to encompass things like probabilistic, interactive, zero-knowledge, and quantum proofs).&nbsp; This really is some of the easiest, best, and most fun material in all of CS theory to popularize.&nbsp; <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/itunes-u\/lectures-events-williams-lecture\/id431294044\">Here are iTunes videos<\/a> of my talk and the three others in the symposium: I&#8217;m video #2, logician Solomon Feferman is #3, attorney David Rudovsky is #4, and mathematician Dennis DeTurck is #5.&nbsp; Also, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottaaronson.com\/talks\/proofs.ppt\">here are my PowerPoint slides<\/a>.&nbsp; Thanks very much to Scott Weinstein at Penn for organizing the symposium.<\/p>\n<p>In other news, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottaaronson.com\/writings\/plogp.html\">Complexity Zoo<\/a> went down <em>yet again<\/em> this week, in a disaster that left vulnerable communities without access to vital resources like nondeterminism and multi-prover interaction.&nbsp; Luckily, computational power has since been restored: with help from some volunteers, I managed to get the Zoo up and running again on my BlueHost account.&nbsp; But while the content is there, it <em>looks<\/em> horrendously ugly; all the formatting seems to be gone.&nbsp; And the day I agreed to let the Zoo be ported to MediaWiki was the day I lost the ability to fix such problems.&nbsp; What I really need, going forward, is for <strong>someone else simply to take charge<\/strong> of maintaining the Zoo: it&#8217;s become painfully apparent both that it needs to be done and that I lack the requisite IT skills.&nbsp; If you want to take a crack at it, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottaaronson.com\/Qwiki-20120823175604.xml\">here&#8217;s an XML dump<\/a> of the Zoo from a few months ago (I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s really changed since then).&nbsp; You don&#8217;t even need to ask my permission: just <strong>get something running<\/strong>, and if it looks good, I&#8217;ll anoint you the next Zookeeper and redirect complexityzoo.com to point to your URL.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Update (Nov. 18):<\/strong><\/span> The Zoo is back up with the old formatting and graphics!!&nbsp; Thanks so much to Charles Fu for setting up the new <a href=\"http:\/\/complexity-zoo.net\/\">complexity-zoo.net<\/a> (as well as Ethan, who set up a slower site that tided us over).&nbsp; I&#8217;ve redirected complexityzoo.com to point to complexity-zoo.net, though it might take some time for your browser cache to clear.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last Friday, I was at a &#8220;Symposium on the Nature of Proof&#8221; 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